At A Loss (For Words)

Valentine
Rose Avenue

The weight of this sad time we must obey;

Speak what we feel, not what we ought to say.  

Albany in King Lear

 

First, know this going in: it is an impossible conversation. Or very very difficult. After a death. Words are insufficient. They just won’t work. Shakespeare may say it best. And it wasn’t just Bee Gees who sang about words being “all I have.”

Some folks first learn about death while at play. As a child in Detroit if you got caught, “counting the cars in a funeral” procession, your friends chanted that you’d be the next to die:

“The worms crawl in, the worms crawl out

The worms play pinochle on your snout

They roll you up in a long white sheet

And lay you down six feet deep…”

Verse upon verse, funnily about the scary. This goes way back to, “Ring around the rosey/pocketful of posies/Ashes ashes we all fall down,” which I’ve just learned Snopes.com claims does not come from the plague in Europe in the 1300s. http://www.snopes.com/language/literary/rosie.asp

[But another children’s choosing-up-sides rhyme, Engine Engine #9 train going off the tracks is a death trip, too, right? See GOOD HUMOR MAN entry from December 22 2015]

Worm-play on your snout works as an amulet. We injected lyrical spells into each other, arming up via curses to crack us up. Said across a circle.

Do you know any others? Perhaps there exists an Allen Lomax-curated lp collection out there — “Children’s Funeral Procession Songs of the U.S. Possibly Lifted from Great Britain.”  You sure don’t see processions anymore.

on Abbot Kinney
new mural off Abbot Kinney

When out of words dumbstruck we say someone is “at a loss” for words. Ram Dass [See DIRECTING CONVERSATION entry, February 2 2016] tries to counter this with his work with dying people in hospices. There he tries to “create a space” where someone can open up and express themselves – a space to maybe find words, continuing to play in the game of life before hanging up the skates.

“Tell me how your parents died,” she said. I couldn’t believe my ears.

“I beg your pardon?” I said.

“What good is ‘Hello’?” she said.

She had stopped me in my tracks.

“I’ve always thought it was better than nothing,” I said, “but I could be wrong.”

“What does ‘Hello’ mean?” she said.

And I said, “I had always understood it to mean ‘Hello.’”

“Well it doesn’t,” she said. “It means, ‘Don’t talk about anything important.’ It means, ‘I’m smiling but not listening, so just go away.’”

She went on to avow that she was tired of just pretending to meet people. “So sit down here,” she said, “and tell Mama how your parents died.”

“Tell Mama!” Can you beat it?  

Kurt Vonnegut in his novel Bluebeard

Can you beat that? Vonnegut!

When conveying the news about a death it’s weird today because you can’t just say, “You better sit down” like they always say in the movies. Most people are already sitting, in front of their computers.

When singer Dan Fogelberg died in 2007, I went online to remember one of his tunes and I was amazed to discover scores of comments, memorial pages created at a YouTube link. Everyone mourning together via text, sending memories in video. I don’t deal well with death, but this certainly helped. Obviously it wasn’t a face-to-face mourning. But I felt I was in the middle of a new kind of moving conversation.

Back Pocket Banter: Five Ways To Convo

Do people find you comforting?

How do you comfort people?

How do you deal with loss?

Do you go on YouTube and type up your memories?

If you could live and die during any period of history, which would you choose?

obit of a conversationalist
Obit of convo maven

Activity

Hug until the other person lets go.  (Hey once we start hugging why do we ever let go? To get back to this thing the artist formerly-known as Prince calls life?)

Get into a conversation: According to many family traditions, funerals and weddings are the best times to catch up with uncles, aunts, cousins and cousins once removed. Ask about their lives and you’ll get good stories. How is that sister-in-law’s sister on the Cape and her kids at Keene State? There are Peace Corps missions and scientists and sports legends to learn about!

Family convos can remind you that funerals are to remind you that engaging in life is worthwhile and worth even more when humor, sadness, the spices of life and death—voila! —are added. 

Bonus!

For conversations after funerals, actress Elaine Stritch recommended having a couple of drinks. She told me her next memoir would be called, “How Drinking Saved My Life.” In wintertime there’s Irish coffee, known for having loosened up many a tongue across the San Francisco Bay area. In summer the vodka tonic. I think I still prefer silence.

The wages of dying is love

Yes you cling

because I like you only sooner

than you will go down

the path of vanished alphabets.  

Galway Kinnell

 

Though men and women must communicate with words,

angels can talk to one another in silence.   Dante

  

seen at a Starbucks in Burbank
Starbucks in Burbank

 

 

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Directing Conversation: a Tip

Those dry sticky salivaless sounds which can be death to a good conversation.

David Foster Wallace in INFINITE JEST

 

Want a way around such icky stickiness? Like to keep your convos unstuck in time, alive and flowing?

Here’s one smooth move problem solver. Folk Journalists call it: “Directing Conversation.”

When in the midst of back-and-forth banter among three or more persons, I make physical moves with my head. I mean, if one person is talking only to me, I stop looking directly at them. Instead, I shift my head toward the third person. Amazingly, this often makes the person talking also look at the one I just shifted to look at.

Try it!

(Can prove especially useful when the third person does not hear so well and needs to see your lead conversant’s mouth.)

 

Speaking of aging founts of wisdom around us:

My conversation may be full of holes and pauses, but I’ve learned to dispatch a prive Apache scout ahead into the next sentence, the one coming up, to see if there are any vacant names or verbs in the landscape up there. If he sends back a warning, I’ll pause meaningfully, duh, until something else comes to mind. 

Roger Angell in his recent book, THIS OLD MAN 

 

Ram Dass

Now a semi-mature tale delivered by Ram Dass (above) in Colorado in 2013:

An old man is ambling down the primrose path one afternoon when he hears a voice: “Pssst! Can you help me out?”

He looks down to see a big frog staring up from a lush, green meadow.

“Did you just speak to me?” asks the old man. (As it is always in these tales.)

“Yes, could you help me?”

“Well I don’t know. Maybe. I mean I hope so. What’s the problem?”

“I’m under a curse. If you pick me up and kiss me, I will turn into a beautiful maiden and will cook for you and serve you and be everything you ever wanted.”

Well, the man stands there for a while and then picks the frog up, puts him in his pocket, and continues walking down the trail.

After a little while, the frog perks up.

“Hey!” he shouts from inside the pocket. “You forgot to kiss me!”

The old man lifts the little feller out, holds him up about nose high and says to him, “You know at my age, I think it’s more interesting to have a talking frog.”

After the laughter of recognition comes, Ram Dass explains: “The nature of aging has to do with change.”

 

Aha! Here’s a link to more RAM DASS via his love serve remember foundation:

https://www.ramdass.org

Link to NY TIMES piece on INFINITE JEST, just celebrating its 20th anniversary:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/07/books/review/everything-about-everything-david-foster-wallaces-infinite-jest-at-20.html?_r=0

Link to Roger Angell’s book: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25733456-this-old-man

 

In winter’s tedious night sit by the fire

With good old folks, and let them tell thee tales

Of woeful ages long ago betide –

Shakespeare’s RICHARD II

 

Animator Chuck Jones when asked how it felt to be an old man: “I don’t feel like an old man, I feel like a young man with something terribly wrong with him!” 

Charles Solomon in the LA Times

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Reclaiming Conversation: Check Out Book Talk!

Here’s a professor who knows her way around a WalkyTalky: Sherry Turkle, in a C-SPAN 2 convo at New York University re her book Reclaiming Conversation: The Power of Talk in a Digital Age, dealing with “the impact of the digital age on traditional conversation.”

Let’s discuss:

http://www.c-span.org/video/?400035-1/book-discussion-reclaiming-conversation

 

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Until next time, when I’ll bring you that Ram Dass story I promised you LAST time…

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Five Ways To Witty Banter (An occasional series)

pic of me tipping capHello and Welcome Back Convo Lovers,

 

Men of all sorts take a pride to gird at me: the

brain of this foolish-compounded clay, man, is not

able to invent anything that tends to laughter, more

than I invent or is invented on me: I am not only

witty in myself, but the cause that wit is in other

men.  

Falstaff in II Henry IV

 

Okay, so nobody could be as quick with their wit as Falstaff, a character so great that Shakespeare wrote him into three plays.  (Was anyone in more plays than Sir John?) But give these five quick openers a try the next time you find yourself looking for words:

Back Pocket Banter

Where would you take me if I were new in town?

How old were you at your first rock concert? Do you have a story you recall from it?

Is there a part in a movie you would like to have played?

What’s the worst breakup you’ve been through?

Did you ever hurt somebody really bad?

Aside from engaging in this conversation, what is the biggest mistake you’ve ever made?

(Okay, that was seven, but I think you can have fun with at least five of them)

 

Doll Tearsheet: They say Poins has a good wit.

Falstaff: He a good wit? hang him, baboon! his wit’s as thick as Tewksbury mustard  

II Henry IV

 

Next Time: Story From A Master Named Ram Dass!

 

 

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Conversations By Nature: after seeing the movie “The Revenant”

 

Phelps Lake in Wyoming

Got to travel

Over mountains

Gotta travel

Over seas

Gotta travel

Til we win       Death or Glory by The Clash

 

Travelers must be content     As You Like It

 

The new Leonard DiCaprio movie “The Revenant,” takes you deep into the wilderness, featuring breathtaking scenes from the mountains of western Canada down to Tierra del Fuego Argentina. It takes place in 1823 in Montana and South Dakota. And despite the difficulty of his character’s journey, I’m here today to tell you that conversations for the rest of us along the trail? No walk in the park either.

First off, there’s not that much talking when communing best with the woods. As counselors up at Camp Lookout in northern Michigan, we had this rule while hiking: “Silence on the Trail!”

Beautiful idea, right?

But as an adult, please don’t yell me to shaddup for singing side two of “Abbey Road” or my favorite Dan Fogelberg choruses as we scale the high Sierra. You are supposed to sing, and loudly – try Broadway show tunes — when attempting to scare away the bears. (spoiler alert: Did Not Work for DiCaprio)

Dayhike on Death Canyon shelf
August in the Grand Tetons

According to Joseph Campbell (and others, of course) the bear is the oldest worshipped deity in the world. And like bears, every hiker you pass out there has their own way of being. Different from city walking where you ignore everybody you come in close contact with (because FILL-IN URBAN AVOIDANCE STRATEGY HERE), far outside the megalopolis, guess what: You can actually include and welcome humans to your side. Why? Because where it’s you vs. nature out there (one cannot emphasize the “out-thereness” of outdoors enough), any chance to join forces may come in handy so I’m here to encourage it.

We’re talking about survival among the rawest elements of life!  Plus, chances to relate in ways no human ever has a chance to. (Be sure to take along a Marmot rain jacket – talk about a real lifesaver.)

 

DeathCanyonShelftrail

 

Backpack Banter for Urbanized Campers

To anyone crossing your path, “Have a good one,” is short and sweet. “Howdy,” is even shorter. These greetings — or say, “May the peace of the wilderness be with you!” – force the opposing trailblazer to return with a “Have a good one!” (Albeit just in passing, because I can’t stop continuing to get down this trail/up the trail/to my campsite/and am lacking breath from sweating through another dang switchback/I need to push on farther along without any help from you no thank you very mucho…)

Note: Trail Etiquette 101 gives those going uphill the right of way. Trail Etiquette 101.1 teaches that if time allows, you may offer comments about passing trekker’s t-shirts and ball caps, as in: “Star Trek, cool…” or “the Wyoming cowboy. Cool,” or “Harvard? Really?”

Advanced Trail Etiquette says avoid, “May the force be with you” or asking about their gear, because there is nothing like humblebragsters going on about having proper rain gear in places like the Grand Tetons (see Marmot) because while it may be the youngest of the Rockies range, they do create their own weather system, putting you as warily in the moment as those furry little marmots bouncing boulder to boulder just ahead of you.

But hey, it’s your gambol; you can pretty much say anything. Let’s face it, in nature one is unrestrained. And you will probably not see that hiker again. So go ahead freely: “Next summer I gotta get me one of them umbrella hats!”*

 

Daniel's boots in Death Canyon

 

Convo To Go

Feeling burned out on your trail? Put these in your pack to poke ’em with:

“I feel absolutely tree ripened out here, don’t you?”

“That there is a Jeffrey Pine. Yep. Go on up and smell it. Yes, you can scratch the bark and smell it. Is that vanilla? Butterscotch? Crazy, right? Well, there are over 300 different kinds of pine — funny you should ask — pinus, if you will. The Jeffrey grows mostly in the Sierra range. Did you know also that the presence of trees have been shown by a study to lower violent crime?”

Bonus

With just a few folks left around the campfire, folk singing & conversational storytelling having crackled down to a cool blue whisper, might be time for employing the following to blow whatever minds are still open:

“Ever tried living in Deep Time? When you slow down a little first, get away from the very next thing in front of you and go back like to when you are in nature— living in deeper and deeper time, the slower and slower it gets, stretching out in its passing to where you go all the way back and accept yourself as a part of the Story of Evolution itself. You realize you are part of this living being floating through the universe where the percentage of calcium in your tears is the same as in the oceans. That’s what aging is: part of it as all of it processes. So now you can quit worrying; humans have been here for 20 thousand years. The mammoths 10 million years. Dinosaurs 100 million years. Forget about wondering whether to get dirty in nature. And don’t worry about whether we should kiss, because there is more bacteria in your mouth than in all the humans who ever lived on the planet.”

SnowinTetonsAugust

 

Questions 

Did you ever want to be a park ranger when you were a child?

Which national parks have you visited? How about overseas?

Did you ever get angry during a camping trip and what was the cause?

What’s the most amazing highway you’ve ever traveled upon?

What was the scariest thing to ever happen to you while camping?

Describe the coolest animal you’ve ever seen out there.

How would your friends describe you in relation to camping or hiking?

Bonus Convo!

If you are in the eastern U.S., try: Did you know that “Hudson” as in the Hudson River means “great waters constantly in motion”?

If you are in the western U.S.: Did you know that “Pacific” like in the ocean means “peace”?

Bonus Activities!

Take a day hike without your phone.

Ask some friends to join you for some outdoor activity or sport.

Tell a story around a campfire. (Remember that certain scary tales, like featuring Bloody Fingers! and other body parts, may drive more people into their tents than keep them conversing/smoldering by the fire.)

Relate a tale from time spent at summer camp.

Write a short letter thanking the person who introduced you to the natural world.

 

Dayhike on switchback below
Folk journalist switchbacking out, walking stick on rock.

 

VINCENTIO

But is it true? or else is it your pleasure,

Like pleasant travellers, to break a jest

Upon the company you overtake?

HORTENSIO

I do assure thee, father, so it is.      

The Taming of the Shrew

 

In my first interview with a Sierra bear we were frightened and embarrassed, both of us, but the bear’s behavior was better than mine.    

John Muir

 

 

Above photos by Daniel Mandil, Robert J. Rees.

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Learner’s Permit for Life: A folk journalist’s ticket to ride

The key to the future of the world is finding the optimistic stories and letting them be known.               Pete Seeger

 

From the book "Twentieth Century Etiquette An Up-To-Date Book For Polite Society" by AnnIe Randall White
“There are few who do not ardently desire to become good conversationalists.”  From the book “Twentieth Century Etiquette An Up-To-Date Book For Polite Society” by Annie Randall White

 

So what does a folk journalist do? And do you care?

That’s a lesson I learned out there: if you don’t care about your fellow conversant, why carry such a heavy microphone? (Although, yes, flash drive cards have gotten much lighter, I learned at the feet of folks carrying Wollensaks* and other portably massive recording machiens.)

Why stick a mic smack dab into the snoot of every Mr. and Mrs. America? Just to get a story?

Well, yes.

You’ll find them on every block. Spending forty years taking it to the streets of this great entertainment nation — not living in the street, though I’ve interviewed the houseless and as Dylan said, Who aint homeless? — but as a foreign correspondent too, in Athens and Jerusalem, your friendly neighborhood folk journalist has been fired out of newsrooms from New York to San Francisco.

Also from Los Angeles to Santa Monica.

That’s the nature of the business.   But you learn some things. A folk journalist gets nothing less than a learner’s permit for life.**

The world opens when you open with a question. Folk journalists are so freewheeling with questions, they can come off more as “suggestions.” They come with low-expectations.  You are trying to create a space (ala RAM DASS; more about him later) where a person can feel comfortable to chat.

I’ve learned so much on mic. And off, of course, with the result being slapped, kicked (Ahh, Athens!), chased out of shops, run down streets by cops. All in the service of asking for that story never heard before.

The famous quote by E.M. Forster comes to mind: “Only connect.”

How?

By presenting voices from America. (More about STUDS TERKEL later) One records people professionally for radio, but also, any average woman-on-the-street-travelling-marshmallow-face-painted-every-kid-who-has-a-podcast gets to pop the vox populi by posing questions. Creating a space by invading someone else’s.  The rightly timed question can bring a moment to life that might help a fellow find meaning in their own.

 

One of the beauties of this job is nobody knows where a conversation can lead.

How to make your great big convo begin?

Are you taking notes? Because poet Robert Bly (More on him, etc.) has the answer!

Bly says, “Ask a question. And listen.”

 

QUESTIONS

As a folk journalist, some approaches I’ll open with:

“What was the best year of your life?”

“How do you handle stress?”

“What is your conception of God?”

“What’s the richest you’ve ever been?”

“What is the most beautiful word in the (fill in) language?”

“What does this line mean: And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make.

“Do you have a podcast?”

“How do you like your Burning Man experience thus far?”

 

TIP

Here’s a simple way to start (See Post on “Quick Openers”): “Need any help with that?”

Kind of an easygoing outreach that oft-times returns a response your way and who knows what’s next.

Because after that? (Don’t get nervous now) We’re off and running! And walking and talking and listen…

 

Art of Listening: A good talker makes a good listener. You pay your listeners by a few "brilliant flashes of silence" now and then, the compliment of supposing that they have something to say, and that you are desirous of listening to them.
The Art of Listening: A good talker makes a good listener…. You pay your listeners by a few “brilliant flashes of silence” now and then, the compliment of supposing that they have something to say, and that you are desirous of listening to them.

 

http://www.clydesight.com/wollensak_reel_to_reel_tape_recorder/Wollensak_history.html

** A learner’s permit is a state-approved pre-driver’s license issued at 15-16 after proper study behind the wheel

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